Wild Speculation #7: Beauty and the Beast (2012-2016) Season 1 Episode 8, Trapped

Warning: This post will contain spoilers for this episode, and any episodes that came before it.

My first thought was this: So, wait, Vincent doesn't remember most of this kark?

When I settled in to this episode, I braced myself for a long and torturous episode (or entire season if I was unlucky) of Vincent and JT not telling Cat about her Mom because for some reason, heroes do that in movies and TV shows.

Imagine my surprise and delight when he told Cat immediately! A goodguy acting smart for once— it definitely stood out to me. If Vincent keeps it up, I may end up liking him yet!

I thought the kid singer was both hilarious and sad. The flickers of uncertainty once he realized his manager was out to kill him was the sad part. Life can be weird enough for kids growing up in that kind of environment without having the person they trust most trying to murder them for a book deal. Ouch. It makes me wonder what that character would grow up into... but I doubt he'll reappear in Beauty and the Beast again. Too bad. I'd be interested to see a story arc for him, maybe see if he could form a healthy friendship with Tess instead of this Kid-Hitting-on-Adult thing he was trying to do. I think having an adult not afraid to speak her mind and call him on his banthakark would be a healthy thing for him to experience routinely.

Now. Can I just say that the fact that our heroine's mother's name is Vanessa Chandler is... something, after watching Penny Dreadful?

Evan will figure it out. He will. Matter of time. I hope it's sooner than with Wu on Grimm. Much sooner.

One more wild speculation: the soldier who spent time chatting with Vincent, then was carried out foaming at the mouth? I think she's going to be an antagonist eventually.

Wild Speculation #6: Beauty and the Beast (2012-2016) Season 1 Episode 7, Out of Control

Warning: This post will contain spoilers for this episode, and any episodes that came before it.

When the question of is this a busy night for murders was replied to with just this and a gang hit in the Bowery, I was sure that was going to be important. Ah, well. Sometimes throwaway lines are just that.

My first guess with New Intern Peter was that he was from Muirfield, the moment he was introduced.

As far as my Assume-Everyone-Is-From-Muirfield behavior pattern, all I can say is I watched the TV show Dollhouse all the way through. I distrusted every character in that TV show except the one the badguy ended up being, and I didn't see it coming until the last possible second before the reveal. What. Yes.

Of course, Dollhouse made it difficult to watch Firefly, because every time Alan Tudyk was on screen, I was waiting for his character to kill somebody...

Back to Beauty and the Beast!

Turns out I was wrong about Peter, and I figured that out about 23 minutes in. Once Evan mentioned he was going to request the student roster, I started whispering at the screen, “Your intern did it!” And of course Evan had to mention he was going to return to the scene of the crime, though he didn't put it in quite those terms... poor Evan. Ouch.

Would Thrawn Have Been in Clone Wars? (I Don't Know)

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This post contains potential spoilers for the novel Thrawn (2017) by Timothy Zahn, as well as information from the Untold Clone Wars panel from Star Wars Celebration Anaheim 2015 regarding the unfinished Clone Wars seasons 7 & 8.

During the Untold Clone Wars panel from Star Wars Celebration Anaheim 2015, the fans learned about some of the stories that would have been in Star Wars: The Clone Wars seasons seven and eight.

One of these ideas included a new, canon version of the Yuuzhan Vong. They would not have been what we are familiar with from the EU. As everything drawn from the EU into canon, there would have been changes (some major), but the designs were being worked on, and artwork of one of the ships was revealed.

The idea was that this was a scout ship sent ahead to have a look at the galaxy, to see if it was ready for invasion yet. They would decide there were too many Jedi, and choose to wait for another, better time.

The episode was supposed to have a mysterious, spooky, abducted by aliens feel that we haven't seen in Star Wars TV before, and I think it would have been a nice addition to the many genres represented in Clone Wars.

I confess that at the time, I was more interested in other story ideas that hadn't been fleshed out, so I didn't pay much attention to the Yuuzhan Vong story idea except to think, wow, that would have been interesting, I wonder what it would have been like.

That all changed with the new Thrawn novel.

Ahead there be spoilers, so if you don't want to see them, this is your final warning.

Thrawn has a conversation with Palpatine, and within it, the information is revealed that he met Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars era. They worked together and then parted ways, Anakin going home to tell Palpatine about the Chiss mastermind he'd encountered.

First of all: my mind shattered. I completely lost it. I was reading the story aloud to my Mom (another serious fan of Zahn's work) at the time, and I could not keep reading, I was so busy talking about what that could mean, and how epic it was for me as a fan to know that Anakin Skywalker (not Vader) knew Thrawn, and that Thrawn knew him.

And then I got to thinking about the unmade Clone Wars episodes, and remembered the intended Yuuzhan Vong story....

Suddenly things got even better. What if that meet up was not just Timothy Zahn being utterly awesome, but would actually have been portrayed on screen too? Would Thrawn have had an episode in Clone Wars to work side-by-side with Anakin Skywalker?

I have no solid answers to that, but I love the idea. I really hope it's true, and I very much hope that the unfinished Clone Wars episodes will be finished an arc at a time and released on Netflix as single-shot stories. That, or finish each arc as its own film, and release them in the summer, in between seasons of whatever will follow after Rebels is over.

Wild Speculation #5 Beauty and the Beast (2012-2016) Season 1 Episode 6, Worth

Warning: This post will contain spoilers for this episode, and any episodes that came before it.

I liked this new intro much better than the original one. Using audio clips from actual episodes to explain the story instead of having Vincent and Cat spell it out feels better to me.

When they walked in and saw multiples of the “same” painting (just a canvas covered in one solid color), my first guess was that there had been paintings beneath, and someone had just come through and covered them over with solid colors to destroy what was said in those original paintings. That, of course, ended up not being the case, but I really liked my theory while it lasted!

This episode deepened the Evan romance option. I think it's a pity Evan will be nothing more than a love story obstacle. I like the two of them together, which is something I did not expect.

Wild Speculation #4: Beauty and the Beast (2012-2016) Season 1 Episode 5, Saturn Returns

Warning: This post will contain spoilers for this episode, and any episodes that came before it.

Okay. In this episode we have the solid beginning of Enter Evan As Love Interest. On the one hand, I'm pleased I called it, but on the other... I'm not sure yet. I mean, we know where it has to end up as long as the show did not end up canceled. Beauty and Beast have to be together, or there is no point in calling it this. They'd have gone for another name.

Because of that, I'm having a hard time feeling very invested in this part of the story, because I know that it will end up working out at the last possible minute, and until then there will be a long, painful journey.

Then again, I'm not really into romance movies, so my perspective is very definitely biased.

I thought for sure that both JT and Vincent would decide to not attempt the dates. Actually, that's inaccurate. I was braced against JT getting within hearing distance of his potential date only to have her agree to go out with someone else/kiss the guy selling coffee. Was I the only one sure that was going to go badly? But that turned out okay, and Vincent actually started walking to Cat's apartment.

I kept waiting for him to change his mind... and he didn't. No, it didn't work out, but at least it wasn't his fault. Passing out cold on the sidewalk wasn't exactly something he could have predicted ahead of time. But hey— I'm glad he didn't chicken out! Difficult to be mad at him for fainting...

Wild Speculation #3: Wynonna Earp Season 1 Episode 1, Purgatory

Warning: This post will contain spoilers for this episode.

I rarely enjoy the main female lead in any story. I usually ending up preferring one of the side characters instead.

Less than nine minutes in, I was beginning to suspect I might like Wynonna. Though I confess I'm sorry the blond at the beginning went. Why do horror TV shows always kill off the side character most interesting to me first?

Anyway.

I was fairly certain I liked Marshal Dolls, right up until the end, where he tries to out-dominate a clearly dominant personality type. Not only do I think it was the wrong play, I think it was a display of ego... and I dislike the arrogant characters. Give me a Thrawn any day. Han Solo? Yeah, I'll leave him to you, thanks.

Ten minutes in we had Wyatt Earp's name dropped as her ancestor, and the OK corral mentioned as well. I grew up on stories of Earp and OK, and when I heard about this TV show, I really hoped it somehow connected with all of that. The moment they mentioned Doc Holliday and the fact that he had TB? I lost my mind.

And Holy Sith, Malcolm pulling the tongue out of that guy's mouth? Wow.

I love the idea that Wynonna's backstory is a bit less straightforward than Dad-taken-and-killed. That she tried to save him, and in the attempt, shot him. Now I'm going to say this here and now, though: In season 3 or 4 I imagine they would open the can of worms that says she wasn't the one who shot him. Someone else was there and did that, and her bullet went wide. I hope they don't, but I have a very sneaking suspicion it'll happen.

Take a deep breath baby girl. That end fight scene where Wynonna is juggling between fighting and holding her hanging sister? Wow. That was different from the usual fight scene choreography.

The question of what did Wyatt do to end up with this curse heading down his line is a very interesting question, and I don't actually have any theories as of yet, except maybe he shot someone loved by some sort of spell-caster, but I anticipate they'll make it quite a bit more interesting than I just said.

Now. The Man Who Climbed Out of The Well.

Yes.

Who is this guy? Is he Doc Holliday? They went out of their way to specify how Doc died early on in the episode, and yes, while I was completely geeking out about it, I was aware enough to know that was an odd thing to put in there if it doesn't prove useful later.

If not Doc, he could easily be one of the other Earp brothers, because Wyatt was by no means the only son of that house.

However it turns out, I'm looking forward to episode 2, and for a TV show pilot, that's unusual for me.

The Snoke Theory I Hope Is True

For the most part, I am content with waiting to find out the answers to the questions about future movies instead of backing one theory or another, but this past week I ran into a Snoke theory I actually like.

It runs something like this.

Snoke is a brand-new character, but a very old one. And the Force-important mysterious something buried on Jakku (first brought up in the Aftermath trilogy) is actually Snoke.

That the battle of Jakku disturbed his prison and freed him from where he'd been trapped, watching the events of the past decades but unable to interfere.

This theory appeals heavily to the Goth in me, the idea of an ancient menace awakened by unsuspecting mortals.

This one I think might actually be likely, as opposed to the theory my brother and I cobbled together while reading Thrawn.

What if, instead of the EU's Yuuzhan Vong, we have Snoke's people? What if, all along, Thrawn has been trying to prepare to fight against the threat from outside the galaxy... the threat of Snoke?

I love that idea, but I doubt Thrawn is considered that important in the new canon, so I'm going to hope for the You-Woke-The-Ancient-Evil-Thing theory instead.